[Discussion] [MAC] Snow Leopard Beware

Tue Nov 24 08:58:25 PST 2009

Well I bit the hook and installed the Snow Leopard Upgrade. Bad decision 
indeed. Seems Mr. Job must be hanging out at Mr Gates bridge club.

My printer is not supported - HP LJ1020. Who in their right mind in 2009 
would not support a bloody Laser printer!!! My parallel port LJ 1100 is 
supported, but is not useable.

It does use less drive space, might be a bit faster, doesn't release 
apps any better, gets rid of the dumbness of Services options if they 
don't exist.

So now I have to partition, move data and then reinstall Leopard. Just 
like the good old days.

Anyway check the new printer list before upgrading.

Don

D Burch wrote:
> I agree with Peter. Many of the items are grayed out. Those that are 
> not, are grayed out oin the sub menu, so why have it there. I did a 
> bit of searching tho see what this involves. Well it appears to 
> require scripting of some sort using Automator. Had to find this out 
> at Apple, not a link of any sort from the Services. 
> So if by default nothing works, and if you don't want to try to make 
> it work, you should be able to make it go away, because out of the box 
> it has no obvious purpose.
>
> I did catch a copy of the Taylor book on ebay for under $10.00 
> delivered so well see.
>
> I am sure glad these guys don't make things for my workshop!
>
> Don
>
>
> Joseph J. Hansen wrote:
>> November 12, 2009
>>
>> Peter,
>>
>> The services menu you saw is a feature that let applications (programs) use things that technically belong to other programs, such as the drawing tools of PowerPoint in an email program.  The reason that Chinese Text Converter came first is that they were listed in alphabetical order: Chinese Text Converter, Disk Utility, Finder, Font Book, Grab, Import Image, ... TextEdit.  
>>
>> In the latest version of OS X (Snow Leopard), every Service Menu also has a selection marked "Services Preferences" that lets the user activate and modify keyboard shortcuts for every menu item, so you can customize to your heart's content.
>>
>> Joe
>>
>> On Nov 12, 2009, at 2:46 PM, Peter Poznansky wrote:
>>
>>   
>>> Don....I understand exactly were  you come from....I installed a mac mini for Margaret.....played with it as best I could....very much  missed how I can get around an OS\2 system.
>>> Went to the Apple store...sat in on a basic level intro....more for Margaret than me.....after that found a sales rep to help with other observations I had made.
>>>
>>> Open apple menu...go to Services....VERY FIRST SERVICE available....translate for  Chinese or some such.....exact wording not the point.....the point that this was the TOP of THE LIST for whatever reason, got me going....so sales person....what the hell do I do with this and why is it the first.....duh....no one ever asked me that before....duh....why do you  care....
>>> well I just do as its my nature ....so lets remove it.....oh I'll have to check with someone about that....I've never done that....why would you want to....ends up that he couldn't delete or change it.  As an aside to this....the upgraded Snow Lep. doesn't have it.  The point again is....Trust Us this is good for you...WE know what you want so here it is....don't ask questions.. just be happy.  Other ideas I had about why the interface worked...or DIDN"T WORK....the way you might expect it to got the same response ....why do you even look there or why do you want to do that....and the more I play around with it....the stupider it gets ..as to how anyone would consider the way that apple does stuff is better or more intuitive or USER FRIENDLY ...is a bunch of bs.
>>>
>>> Peter
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 6:54 PM, D Burch <theunk at telus.net> wrote:
>>> Thanks Joe.
>>>
>>> Joseph J. Hansen wrote:
>>>     
>>>> November 9, 2009
>>>>
>>>> Don,
>>>>
>>>> Snow Leopard (10.6) does remediate a lot of Leopard's weak points.  For $29 ($25 from Amazon.com) and with very easy installation, it's well worthwhile.
>>>>
>>>> As you may know, Mac OS X is basically a big UNIX shell.  If what you miss most about OS/2 is getting under the hood, you might like to read _Learning Unix for Mac OS X Tiger_ by Dave Taylor.  It partly explains how OS X works and is full of OS X UNIX hints and tweaks, as well as replacements for some of the OS X apps that you may not like.  It doesn't presuppose any prior knowledge of UNIX .  Amazon has it for $13.75.  See:
>>>>
>>>>    http://www.amazon.com/Learning-Unix-Mac-OS-Tiger/dp/0596009151/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1257807169&sr=1-1
>>>>
>>>> Best regards, Joe Hansen
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Nov 7, 2009, at 8:29 PM, Bob Wonderly wrote:
>>>>
>>>>       
>>>>> I'm about 18 months into using my Mac running OS X 10.5... I "never" (almost) shut it down. The few times I do are when I get it hung so hard nothing else works (very seldom does this happen) and when it wants me to allow software upgrades that require restart. And once in a g-r-e-a-t while to freshen it up.
>>>>>
>>>>> In other words it runs for weeks at a time, sleeping when I am not using it. The same as I did my Linux boxes and OS/2 boxes before that.
>>>>>
>>>>> D Burch wrote:
>>>>>         
>>>>>> Well not a year in and I still miss OS/2 and am slowly losing touch with Windows use. I still seem to think OS/2 first, MAC second.
>>>>>> I have found nothing to compare to PMView for image management or Filestar for basic file management. I find Finder flakey and doesn't even come close to the WPS.
>>>>>> There appear to be memory leaks or locks as over time the available memory decreases to about .5 GB but never goes lower. A reboot restores it to over 1.0 GB.
>>>>>> Close applications doesn't alway close them so you have to keep an eye on the Active lights under the application in the Dock.
>>>>>> Older hardware like scanners, printers and some newer is usually detected at the machine level, but the software doesn't respond, hasn't been kept current with the OS, etc.
>>>>>> I guess MAC users tend to shut their machines down daily, maybe I should start.
>>>>>> For the casual user I think there is a sense of mindlessness. That may not be the right term, but after nearly 20 years of becoming quite intimate with the inner workings of my machine, I find that the MAC approach to computing is similar to MS in that you have to "trust" that everything will work properly as many of the preference settings are lacking.
>>>>>> I have read that the version of the OSX I have - Leopard is not the finest example of OSX ever written, so I may spring for the upgrade and see if it helps.
>>>>>> Don Burch
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