[Discussion] Commencing Installation

Chuck McKinnis mckinnis at sandia.net
Wed Nov 18 20:48:53 PST 2009


D Burch wrote:
> Thomas,
> I gave up on multiple OSes some time ago, preferring to have Windows on 
> a separate machine entirely. But when I did have them all together, I 
> found that that other than DOS, W2000 or WXP, like OS/2 (up to eCS 
> 1.2R), could be put anywhere without any real problems other than you 
> may have to reactivate the boot manager partition after the windows 
> installation.
> 
> Why you would even think that have multiple installs of eCS is your 
> business, but totally unnecessary unless you have some passion to try 
> and understand the inner workings of each. I think that if you stop at 
> Warp 4.52 you will be happy. eCS is a "windowsization" project that is 
> piling features on top of OS/2 but not  really enhancing the basic 
> engine to the point where we can use it almost exclusively as we could 
> in the pre-W95 days.
> 
> I did find that when I was evaluating RC 5 & 6 of ECS2.0, something went 
> south with boot manager and I was unable to maintain reliable access to 
> any partition. I should have known better as RC 5&6 are test software. 
> So don't install these on your working machine.
> 
> I do not recall any problems with LVM up to ECS1.2R. I always had 
> sufficient space on my drive which would allow me to install the 
> latests. Once I was happy with it I would delete the previous version 
> and carry on.
> When I decided to play in the litter box (MAC Leopard) in February I 
> shut down  my OS2 and Windows  boxes. I still have them as well as a 
> nice HDMI KVM switch. I recently scored a dual cpu Tyan 386 board on 
> eBay, so I am going to try a standalone RC6 install and see what 2 CPU's 
> are like.
> Don't know if this helps.
> 
> Don
> 
> 
> Thomas Clayton wrote:
>> Dear POSSI:
>>
>> I thought of en-Title-ing this letter;
>> Commencing Installation: What Comes First? Whose on Second? et cetera.
>> ;-)
>>
>> FINALLY, getting around to installing OpSyses onto my "new" computer. 
>> I'm intending to have:
>>
>> Bootmanager (Primary, first drive)
>>
>> Either, DR/Novell DOS (32MB or 128MB Max) OR Win99 (w/ its MS-DOS "8"; 
>> 512MB max, Primary C:)
>> I might SKIP this entirely - in light of the Win NT 5 or 6 that comes 
>> later;
>>
>> IBM Warp 4 FxPak 15 (because I know it well enough to figure out 
>> glitches from the new Hw,
>>  it's the easiest one (for me!) to install of the OS/2-eCS versions I 
>> have,
>>  AND to see how FAST it goes on this new hardware), (512MB, ?Which 
>> volume is to be later deleted and its space ("Partition Magic-ally"?) 
>> combined with an / the eCS volume?)
>>
>> One (or Three?) eCS volumes. I've got copies of eCS 1.0, 1.1 and 1.2 - 
>> I think! (No 1.2R - yet!)
>> I may / could replace one, with the next, with the next?? That way I'd 
>> need only one partition / volume. BUT any one of these REQUIRE that 
>> NEW (to me!) way of "partition"ing one's hard disk drive (HDD): LVM.
>> (512MB --> 2,048MB required minimum plus swap w/ spare space PER 
>> installation volume)
>>
>> Lastly, for OSes, a Win2K (or WinXP) volume just to "foul up" the 
>> system ;-) . (NTFS, 8 - 15 GB s)
>>
>> ALL OS/2-eCS volumes are to be HPFS (NO JFS, etc.!) Programs and Data 
>> are to be in separate volumes from their OSes - EXCEPT for the MS-Win 
>> stuff which practically REQUIRES them to be on the same volume. Hence 
>> the very large NTFS volume.
>>
>>
>> For Hw, I've got an AHA-29160N controller with four IBM Ultrastar 18GB 
>> U160 HDDs with a fifth spare. (SCSI IDs = 0,1,2,3) There are two 
>> compact optical disc (COD) drives: a Toshiba SD-M1401 (10xV, 40xA) 
>> RO-DVDD (SCSI ID = 4) and a Plextor PX-1210S 12x 10x 20x RW-DADD (SCSI 
>> ID = 5). Residing in the case but NOT connected is an old HP 2(4C)GB 
>> tape drive (SCSI ID = 6). Available to me is a third COD which is a 
>> Toshiba XM-6401 (40x) RO-DADD. (Cf. seperate letter already to follow; 
>> "Already A Boot Problem")
>>
>> My guesses are:
>> First, Install Boot Manager on first HDD (SCSI ID = 0);
>> Second, Create a Primary "DOS" partition on first HDD;
>> Third, Create extended partition on first HDD
>>
>> THEN - I'm stumped.
>> Warp 4 into a Primary on second HDD?
>> OR
>> Win 2K on rest of first HDD?
>> Win2K onto Primary on second HDD?
>> Which comes first: WinNT or Warp 4 - OR eCS?
>>
>> When installing eCS, HOW do I LVM so that "previously" installed OSes 
>> are still available?
>>
>> DOES it 'mess them up' - or not?
>>
>>
>> Sincerely,
>>
>> Thomas Clayton
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Discussion mailing list
>> Discussion at lists.possi.org
>> http://lists.possi.org/mailman/listinfo/discussion
>>
>>   
> _______________________________________________
> Discussion mailing list
> Discussion at lists.possi.org
> http://lists.possi.org/mailman/listinfo/discussion
> 

Just to give you an idea what my T61 looks like.  I captured the DFSee 
output as a PDF.



-- 
Chuck McKinnis
Sandia Park, NM
http://www.7cities.net/~mckinnis/
Pray for the peace of Jerusalem: they shall prosper that love thee. 
Psalm 122:6

-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: t61_layout.pdf
Type: application/pdf
Size: 12816 bytes
Desc: not available
URL: <http://lists.possi.org/pipermail/discussion/attachments/20091118/aa062b37/attachment-0001.pdf>


More information about the Discussion mailing list