[Discussion] [MAC]
D Burch
theunk at telus.net
Mon Nov 16 14:10:01 PST 2009
Thanks Thomas. Very interesting discussions.
It makes you want to line up a bunch of former IBM execs and just kickem
all in the ass - even twice!
Don
Thomas Clayton wrote:
> Dear POSSI:
>
> I'd like to write a LONG letter but I've got no time to do so!
>
> Recently "came across"
> "
> #2–I Am a Future PC: Why I’m Dumping Apple After 15 Years (11/4/09)
> "
>
> with all your negativce comments, You'll be happy to know you're not alone.
>
>
> Most Recent Post:
>
> http://www.chicagocarless.com/2009/11/04/i-am-a-future-pc-why-im-dumping-apple-after-15-years/
>
> Master Listing (start here):
> http://www.chicagocarless.com/im-not-a-mac-archive/
>
> I will say I have some disagreements - but as I said earlier: my one Mac is running Panther 10.3.9.
>
> Thomas Clayton
> --- On Thu, 11/12/09, Peter Poznansky <97aero at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>> From: Peter Poznansky <97aero at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Discussion] [MAC]
>> To: "POSSI Discussion List" <discussion at lists.possi.org>
>> Date: Thursday, November 12, 2009, 1:46 PM
>> Don....I understand exactly were you come
>> from....I installed a mac mini for Margaret.....played with
>> it as best I could....very much missed how I can get
>> around an OS\2 system.
>> Went to the Apple store...sat in on a basic level
>> intro....more for Margaret than me.....after that found a
>> sales rep to help with other observations I had made.
>>
>>
>> Open apple menu...go to Services....VERY FIRST SERVICE
>> available....translate for Chinese or some such.....exact
>> wording not the point.....the point that this was the TOP of
>> THE LIST for whatever reason, got me going....so sales
>> person....what the hell do I do with this and why is it the
>> first.....duh....no one ever asked me that
>> before....duh....why do you care....
>>
>> well I just do as its my nature ....so lets remove
>> it.....oh I'll have to check with someone about
>> that....I've never done that....why would you want
>> to....ends up that he couldn't delete or change it. As
>> an aside to this....the upgraded Snow Lep. doesn't have
>> it. The point again is....Trust Us this is good for
>> you...WE know what you want so here it is....don't ask
>> questions.. just be happy. Other ideas I had about why the
>> interface worked...or DIDN"T WORK....the way you might
>> expect it to got the same response ....why do you even look
>> there or why do you want to do that....and the more I play
>> around with it....the stupider it gets ..as to how anyone
>> would consider the way that apple does stuff is better or
>> more intuitive or USER FRIENDLY ...is a bunch of bs.
>>
>>
>> Peter
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 6:54 PM, D
>> Burch <theunk at telus.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks Joe.
>>
>>
>>
>> Joseph J. Hansen wrote:
>> November 9, 2009
>>
>>
>>
>> Don,
>>
>>
>>
>> Snow Leopard (10.6) does remediate a lot of
>> Leopard's weak
>> points. For $29 ($25 from Amazon.com) and
>> with very easy
>> installation, it's well worthwhile.
>>
>>
>>
>> As you may know, Mac OS X is basically a big UNIX
>> shell. If
>> what you miss most about OS/2 is getting under the hood,
>> you might like
>> to read _Learning Unix for Mac OS X Tiger_ by
>> Dave Taylor. It partly explains how OS X works and is
>> full of OS X
>> UNIX hints and tweaks, as well as replacements for some of
>> the OS X
>> apps that you may not like. It doesn't presuppose any
>> prior knowledge
>> of UNIX . Amazon has it for $13.75.
>> See:
>>
>>
>>
>> http://www.amazon.com/Learning-Unix-Mac-OS-Tiger/dp/0596009151/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1257807169&sr=1-1
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Best regards, Joe Hansen
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Nov 7, 2009, at 8:29 PM, Bob Wonderly
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> I'm about 18 months into using my Mac running
>> OS X 10.5... I
>> "never" (almost) shut it down. The few times I do
>> are when I get it
>> hung so hard nothing else works (very seldom does this
>> happen) and when
>> it wants me to allow software upgrades that require
>> restart. And once
>> in a g-r-e-a-t while to freshen it up.
>>
>>
>>
>> In other words it runs for weeks at a time, sleeping when I
>> am not
>> using it. The same as I did my Linux boxes and OS/2 boxes
>> before that.
>>
>>
>>
>> D Burch wrote:
>>
>> Well not a year in and I still
>> miss OS/2
>> and am slowly losing touch with Windows use. I still seem
>> to think OS/2
>> first, MAC second.
>>
>>
>> I have found nothing to compare
>> to PMView
>> for image management or Filestar for basic file management.
>> I find
>> Finder flakey and doesn't even come close to the WPS.
>>
>>
>> There appear to be memory leaks
>> or locks as
>> over time the available memory decreases to about .5 GB but
>> never goes
>> lower. A reboot restores it to over 1.0 GB.
>>
>>
>> Close applications doesn't
>> alway close them
>> so you have to keep an eye on the Active lights under the
>> application
>> in the Dock.
>>
>>
>> Older hardware like scanners,
>> printers and
>> some newer is usually detected at the machine level, but
>> the software
>> doesn't respond, hasn't been kept current with the
>> OS, etc.
>>
>>
>> I guess MAC users tend to shut
>> their
>> machines down daily, maybe I should start.
>>
>>
>> For the casual user I think
>> there is a
>> sense of mindlessness. That may not be the right term, but
>> after nearly
>> 20 years of becoming quite intimate with the inner workings
>> of my
>> machine, I find that the MAC approach to computing is
>> similar to MS in
>> that you have to "trust" that everything will
>> work properly as many of
>> the preference settings are lacking.
>>
>>
>> I have read that the version of
>> the OSX I
>> have - Leopard is not the finest example of OSX ever
>> written, so I may
>> spring for the upgrade and see if it helps.
>>
>>
>> Don Burch
>>
>>
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