[Discussion] [MAC]

Sun Nov 15 15:23:47 PST 2009

Dear POSSI:

I'd  like to write a LONG letter but I've got no time to do so!

Recently "came across"
"
#2–I Am a Future PC: Why I’m Dumping Apple After 15 Years (11/4/09)
"

with all your negativce comments, You'll be happy to know you're not alone.

Most Recent Post:

http://www.chicagocarless.com/2009/11/04/i-am-a-future-pc-why-im-dumping-apple-after-15-years/

Master Listing (start here):
http://www.chicagocarless.com/im-not-a-mac-archive/

I will say I have some disagreements - but as I said earlier: my one Mac is running Panther 10.3.9.

Thomas Clayton
--- On Thu, 11/12/09, Peter Poznansky <97aero at gmail.com> wrote:

> From: Peter Poznansky <97aero at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Discussion] [MAC]
> To: "POSSI Discussion List" <discussion at lists.possi.org>
> Date: Thursday, November 12, 2009, 1:46 PM
> Don....I understand exactly were  you come
> from....I installed a mac mini for Margaret.....played with
> it as best I could....very much  missed how I can get
> around an OS\2 system.
> Went to the Apple store...sat in on a basic level
> intro....more for Margaret than me.....after that found a
> sales rep to help with other observations I had made.
> 
> 
> Open apple menu...go to Services....VERY FIRST SERVICE
> available....translate for  Chinese or some such.....exact
> wording not the point.....the point that this was the TOP of
> THE LIST for whatever reason, got me going....so sales
> person....what the hell do I do with this and why is it the
> first.....duh....no one ever asked me that
> before....duh....why do you  care....
> 
> well I just do as its my nature ....so lets remove
> it.....oh I'll have to check with someone about
> that....I've never done that....why would you want
> to....ends up that he couldn't delete or change it.  As
> an aside to this....the upgraded Snow Lep. doesn't have
> it.  The point again is....Trust Us this is good for
> you...WE know what you want so here it is....don't ask
> questions.. just be happy.  Other ideas I had about why the
> interface worked...or DIDN"T WORK....the way you might
> expect it to got the same response ....why do you even look
> there or why do you want to do that....and the more I play
> around with it....the stupider it gets ..as to how anyone
> would consider the way that apple does stuff is better or
> more intuitive or USER FRIENDLY ...is a bunch of bs.
> 
> 
> Peter
> 
> On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 6:54 PM, D
> Burch <theunk at telus.net>
> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
>   
> 
> 
> Thanks Joe.
> 
> 
> 
> Joseph J. Hansen wrote:
> November 9, 2009
>   
> 
>   
>   Don,
>   
> 
>   
>   Snow Leopard (10.6) does remediate a lot of
> Leopard's weak
> points.  For $29 ($25 from Amazon.com) and
> with very easy
> installation, it's well worthwhile.
>   
> 
>   
>   As you may know, Mac OS X is basically a big UNIX
> shell.  If
> what you miss most about OS/2 is getting under the hood,
> you might like
> to read _Learning Unix for Mac OS X Tiger_ by
> Dave Taylor.  It partly explains how OS X works and is
> full of OS X
> UNIX hints and tweaks, as well as replacements for some of
> the OS X
> apps that you may not like.  It doesn't presuppose any
> prior knowledge
> of UNIX .  Amazon has it for $13.75.
>  See:
>   
> 
>   
>      http://www.amazon.com/Learning-Unix-Mac-OS-Tiger/dp/0596009151/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1257807169&sr=1-1
> 
>   
> 
>   
>   Best regards, Joe Hansen
>   
> 
>   
>   
> 
>   
>   On Nov 7, 2009, at 8:29 PM, Bob Wonderly
> wrote:
>   
> 
>   
>     I'm about 18 months into using my Mac running
> OS X 10.5... I
> "never" (almost) shut it down. The few times I do
> are when I get it
> hung so hard nothing else works (very seldom does this
> happen) and when
> it wants me to allow software upgrades that require
> restart. And once
> in a g-r-e-a-t while to freshen it up.
> 
>     
> 
> In other words it runs for weeks at a time, sleeping when I
> am not
> using it. The same as I did my Linux boxes and OS/2 boxes
> before that.
> 
>     
> 
> D Burch wrote:
> 
>     Well not a year in and I still
> miss OS/2
> and am slowly losing touch with Windows use. I still seem
> to think OS/2
> first, MAC second.
> 
>     
>     I have found nothing to compare
> to PMView
> for image management or Filestar for basic file management.
> I find
> Finder flakey and doesn't even come close to the WPS.
> 
>     
>     There appear to be memory leaks
> or locks as
> over time the available memory decreases to about .5 GB but
> never goes
> lower. A reboot restores it to over 1.0 GB.
> 
>     
>     Close applications doesn't
> alway close them
> so you have to keep an eye on the Active lights under the
> application
> in the Dock.
> 
>     
>     Older hardware like scanners,
> printers and
> some newer is usually detected at the machine level, but
> the software
> doesn't respond, hasn't been kept current with the
> OS, etc.
> 
>     
>     I guess MAC users tend to shut
> their
> machines down daily, maybe I should start.
> 
>     
>     For the casual user I think
> there is a
> sense of mindlessness. That may not be the right term, but
> after nearly
> 20 years of becoming quite intimate with the inner workings
> of my
> machine, I find that the MAC approach to computing is
> similar to MS in
> that you have to "trust" that everything will
> work properly as many of
> the preference settings are lacking.
> 
>     
>     I have read that the version of
> the OSX I
> have - Leopard is not the finest example of OSX ever
> written, so I may
> spring for the upgrade and see if it helps.
> 
>     
>     Don Burch
> 
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