[Discussion] [MAC]

Thu Nov 12 11:46:05 PST 2009

Don....I understand exactly were  you come from....I installed a mac mini
for Margaret.....played with it as best I could....very much  missed how I
can get around an OS\2 system.
Went to the Apple store...sat in on a basic level intro....more for Margaret
than me.....after that found a sales rep to help with other observations I
had made.

Open apple menu...go to Services....VERY FIRST SERVICE
available....translate for  Chinese or some such.....exact wording not the
point.....the point that this was the TOP of THE LIST for whatever reason,
got me going....so sales person....what the hell do I do with this and why
is it the first.....duh....no one ever asked me that before....duh....why do
you  care....
well I just do as its my nature ....so lets remove it.....oh I'll have to
check with someone about that....I've never done that....why would you want
to....ends up that he couldn't delete or change it.  As an aside to
this....the upgraded Snow Lep. doesn't have it.  The point again is....Trust
Us this is good for you...WE know what you want so here it is....don't ask
questions.. just be happy.  Other ideas I had about why the interface
worked...or DIDN"T WORK....the way you might expect it to got the same
response ....why do you even look there or why do you want to do that....and
the more I play around with it....the stupider it gets ..as to how anyone
would consider the way that apple does stuff is better or more intuitive or
USER FRIENDLY ...is a bunch of bs.

Peter

On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 6:54 PM, D Burch <theunk at telus.net> wrote:

>  Thanks Joe.
>
> Joseph J. Hansen wrote:
>
> November 9, 2009
>
>  Don,
>
>  Snow Leopard (10.6) does remediate a lot of Leopard's weak points.  For
> $29 ($25 from Amazon.com) and with very easy installation, it's well
> worthwhile.
>
>  As you may know, Mac OS X is basically a big UNIX shell.  If what you
> miss most about OS/2 is getting under the hood, you might like to read
> _Learning Unix for Mac OS X Tiger_ by Dave Taylor.  It partly explains how
> OS X works and is full of OS X UNIX hints and tweaks, as well as
> replacements for some of the OS X apps that you may not like.  It doesn't
> presuppose any prior knowledge of UNIX .  Amazon has it for $13.75.  See:
>
>
> http://www.amazon.com/Learning-Unix-Mac-OS-Tiger/dp/0596009151/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1257807169&sr=1-1
>
>  Best regards, Joe Hansen
>
>
>  On Nov 7, 2009, at 8:29 PM, Bob Wonderly wrote:
>
>  I'm about 18 months into using my Mac running OS X 10.5... I "never"
> (almost) shut it down. The few times I do are when I get it hung so hard
> nothing else works (very seldom does this happen) and when it wants me to
> allow software upgrades that require restart. And once in a g-r-e-a-t while
> to freshen it up.
>
> In other words it runs for weeks at a time, sleeping when I am not using
> it. The same as I did my Linux boxes and OS/2 boxes before that.
>
> D Burch wrote:
>
> Well not a year in and I still miss OS/2 and am slowly losing touch with
> Windows use. I still seem to think OS/2 first, MAC second.
>
> I have found nothing to compare to PMView for image management or Filestar
> for basic file management. I find Finder flakey and doesn't even come close
> to the WPS.
>
> There appear to be memory leaks or locks as over time the available memory
> decreases to about .5 GB but never goes lower. A reboot restores it to over
> 1.0 GB.
>
> Close applications doesn't alway close them so you have to keep an eye on
> the Active lights under the application in the Dock.
>
> Older hardware like scanners, printers and some newer is usually detected
> at the machine level, but the software doesn't respond, hasn't been kept
> current with the OS, etc.
>
> I guess MAC users tend to shut their machines down daily, maybe I should
> start.
>
> For the casual user I think there is a sense of mindlessness. That may not
> be the right term, but after nearly 20 years of becoming quite intimate with
> the inner workings of my machine, I find that the MAC approach to computing
> is similar to MS in that you have to "trust" that everything will work
> properly as many of the preference settings are lacking.
>
> I have read that the version of the OSX I have - Leopard is not the finest
> example of OSX ever written, so I may spring for the upgrade and see if it
> helps.
>
> Don Burch
>
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