[Discussion] [Linux] Starting the move to MAC

Mon Mar 23 11:22:31 PDT 2009

Joe

What else do you know that I don't know?! Every time someone teaches me 
something new and useful I want to ask them that rhetorical question.

I chased and saved the Rosetta link. It took a few tries before I caught 
on  to the cmd-i -- which shows that even after almost a year I am still 
not 100% Mac-ified.<laugh> That cmd-i is another good thing to know. And 
I did find both Intel and Universal apps.

Bob

Joseph J. Hansen wrote:
> March 23, 2009
> 
> Hi Bob,
> 
> Check out http://www.apple.com/rosetta/
> 
> Rosetta translates application support on Intel-based machines so that 
> Power PC apps can run on it.  There is some minimal loss of speed as 
> Rosetta adds its own overhead.  You never have to install or configure 
> Rosetta because it's an integral part of Mac OS X  for Intel.
> 
> If you go to Finder -> Applications, highlight an application, and click 
> on cmd-i (for information), you'll be able to see whether the app is 
> "Universal" (will run on either Power PC or Intel Macs) or "Power PC".  
> There's a box to check to run even a Universal app under Rosetta, 
> thought I don't know why one would want to do that, except maybe for 
> testing purposes.
> 
> When I got my Intel-based iMac, I copied applications and files from my 
> old Power PC iMac.  In nearly 2 years with the Intel machine, I have 
> never had an older application fail to run, so I'll be surprised if the 
> Power PC C++ compiler does not work.
> 
> Best regards, Joe
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Mar 23, 2009, at 10:33 AM, Bob Wonderly wrote:
> 
>> Joe
>>
>> I looked for Rosetta:
>>
>> --->locate Rosetta | head
>> ---- bobmac at MacBob0-3.home ~/Mac-Prog 0 ----
>> --->man Rosetta
>> No manual entry for Rosetta
>> ---- bobmac at MacBob0-3.home ~/Mac-Prog 1 ----
>>
>> Maybe it's invisible -- you sort of indicated that it was.
>>
>> Thanks for the version tracker URL. I added it to my URL list.
>>
>> Re XL C cf. my response to Julian.
>>
>> Bob
>>
>> Joseph J. Hansen wrote:
>>> March 23, 21009
>>> Bob,
>>> Intel-based Macs include a package called "Rosetta" that enables most 
>>> Power PC applications to run.  You don't have to load or run Rosetta; 
>>> it's a mostly invisible part of the OS that kicks in automatically 
>>> when it sees a Power PC app.  So you might try the IBM XL C/C++ 
>>> complier that you mentioned.  From what I can see, though, that never 
>>> made it out of Beta.
>>> A good place to look for Mac Software is Version Tracker at 
>>> http://www.versiontracker.com/macosx/ .  It has a search box where 
>>> you can look for any kind of software.  This has an advantage over a 
>>> Google search in that listings have been screened to keep out 
>>> malware, spyware, etc.
>>> Joe
>>> On Mar 22, 2009, at 10:23 PM, Bob Wonderly wrote:
>>>> Doug
>>>>
>>>> I poked around IBM's web site and found C++ for big versions of 
>>>> Linux which I don't have. Found lots of ref books for LPEX.
>>>>
>>>> The GNU C compiler works on Mac so my C code has a "place to go".
>>>>
>>>> I did find a C for Mac OS-X Power PC hardware but current OS-X runs 
>>>> on Intel platforms rather the Power PC.
>>>>
>>>> Bob
>>>>
>>>> Douglas Clark wrote:
>>>>> Bob,
>>>>> I think LPEX and LxPM are the same thing, or else LxPM is a later 
>>>>> version of LPEX. The documentation for LxPM still mentions LPEX is 
>>>>> some places.
>>>>> IBM apparently released version 6 of its C++ compiler for MAC OS X 
>>>>> - at least for a few nanoseconds. I didn't know about it until a 
>>>>> month or so ago when I ran across an old update package for the 
>>>>> product. It appears the product included some preliminary Objective 
>>>>> C support - although unofficial.
>>>>> If that package followed the other C++ packages, it might have LPEX 
>>>>> in it. My i have a MAC book that my daughter is using for school, 
>>>>> but I have not tried loading any of this  on it yet. You might poke 
>>>>> around the IBM support site for VisualAge C++ and look for MAC stuff.
>>>>> Doug
>>>>> On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 15:19:02 -0700, Bob Wonderly wrote:
>>>>>> Doug
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You're correct that I didn't hear about LxPM. I did use and like 
>>>>>> IBM's LPEX on OS/2. I googled "LxPM" but got nowhere and presume 
>>>>>> there is no version of it available for OS-X. I googled LPEX and 
>>>>>> got somewhere but no hint of a version for Mac or Linux. CTC's 
>>>>>> SPF/SE which I used is available only for M$Win (per their web site).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So far my Mac editor of choice is BBEdit. But sometimes I need 
>>>>>> those "old fashioned" line and block commands.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bob Wonderly
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Douglas Clark wrote:
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>> Bob - you may not be aware of LxPM, the editor included in 
>>>>>>> VisualAge C++ (versions 3 and 4) which can be configured to act 
>>>>>>> like SPF, i.e. you can "turn on" line numbers for a file and 
>>>>>>> enter SPF line or block commands -  M C D MM CC DD, etc. -  in 
>>>>>>> the line number area. And still use the mouse and other more 
>>>>>>> "modern" commands at the same time. It also outputs messages as 
>>>>>>> readonly messagelines in the text, just like SPF. Editor macros 
>>>>>>> can be written in Rexx or C.
>>>>>> ...
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