[Discussion] Thinking of going IMAC

[Thomas Clayton]

Dear Mark - and POSSI:

Are we going to _HAVE TO_ revert to Netware?

(Their big selling point, at one time, was the ability to connect anything TO anything!)

Tom Clayton


--- On Fri, 12/4/09, dushanm at spinn.net <dushanm at spinn.net> wrote:

> From: dushanm at spinn.net <dushanm at spinn.net>
> Subject: Re: [Discussion] Thinking of going IMAC
> To: discussion at lists.possi.org
> Date: Friday, December 4, 2009, 12:38 PM
> Mark Brueggemann wrote:
> > 
> > --- On Wed, 12/2/09, dushanm at spinn.net
> <dushanm at spinn.net>
> wrote: 
> >> I did that about three years ago, and found it
> much more work than I had anticipated.
> > 
> > Wow Dushan, you don't paint a very rosy picture of the
> Mac.
> 
> Hi Mark.  No, for me it wasn't.  It all depends
> on one's personality.
> Some people would be entirely happy with the Mac OS - I
> just wasn't one
> of them.
> 
> > I'm going through OS woes myself.  I can't seem
> to get there from here.
> 
> Your description of OS troubles is informative, but
> regrettably all too
> familiar.  A few years ago I got Scientific Linux,
> thinking it would be
> business-like.  Maybe it was, for somebody who could
> get it working.  I
> couldn't. 
> > I've got two doze desktops, my dual boot eCs/linux
> desktop, triple boot Thinkpad (doze/eCs/linux), and a linux
> server box. 
> > The intent is to have everything connect to the linux
> machine
> > as a file and print server.  It's been a real eye
> opener. 
> > The server is a Red Hat based system put out by an
> outfit
> > called Clark Connect.  Gives you all the basic
> services you
> > need in a no-frills simple install.  I'm running
> it on a "real" HP server box.  Boxes are all connected
> up with a Linksys wifi hub.  Wifi is for the laptop. 
> > Hardware wise everything seems to work fine. 
> Can't seem
> > to find a common ground with the protocols though. 
> > The server box is currently configured as a Samba
> server
> > for both public shares and print server.  That's
> when I discovered
> > the Samba in eCs is old, and the new one I tried 
> (netlabs?)
> > didn't work.  It can see the shares but won't
> open them. Need to see if I can at least FTP with eCS and
> skip printing for now. 
> > Windoze of course can see, read and write the shares
> just
> > fine, and print perfectly. 
> > Linux is a real pill.  I've tried half a dozen
> distributions and only
> > one so far works with the server 100%.  My linux
> mentor says
> > I need to read up on Samba.  The man page for
> that is only about
> > 200 pages long.  I guess I'm not a true linux
> believer, since I expect basic services to work out of the
> box.  
> > Seems like NFS might be an option for Linux and eCS
> but there's
> > no client built into windoze for that, and would still
> leave me to solve networking the printer.  
> > My goal of having one file/print bucket for all my
> machines is
> > quickly turning to crap.  The more I dork with
> this stuff the
> > better it looks to chuck the whole mess and put my
> data on
> > thumb drives. 
> > The Mac theme to this post is I'd be happy to go
> proprietary
> > if it meant I could plug and play, but even with apple
> there's
> > no guarantees other than how much it will cost
> you.  I need
> > at least one doze and one linux machine no matter
> what, so
> > with a mixed bag like this it appears there's no
> simple solution.
> > You'd think as the technology moved forward it would
> become
> > more seamless and integrated but I'm finding it's just
> the opposite. 
> > Makes me long for the days of Warp 4 and my simple
> peer
> > network, which worked like a hose.
> 
> Yep, I hear you loud & clear. 
> - Dushan
> Albuquerque, NM
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