[Discussion] Thinking of going IMAC

Thomas Clayton topcatdrc at yahoo.com
Thu Dec 3 22:16:49 PST 2009


Mark:

I just went looking to see _what_ "Clark Connect" was / is / was. (I'll skip the explanation of the three all correct verbs. ;-0  ) The 'gist' of what I found out was there is a vn. 5.1, now called "ClearOS" that looks kinda neat _for ServerS_. I may give it a trial - someday.

What version are _you_ currently using?
Do you know its SAMBA vn.? 
Then, lastly, is the SAMBA vn. you (we) have available for eCS _anywhere_ 'near' it (recent, as well)?
I'm thinking: they may _need_ to be similar vn.s
 OR
_both_ well 'debugged' - which our (older?) vn. may not be.

Of course, M$ may keep "moving the goalposts" for SAMBA. It's, of course, an open source imitation of MS's Server Messaging Block 'protocol'. MS can change its 'guts' whenever and however it wants - although backward compatibility reigns them in somewhat.


Thomas Clayton


--- On Thu, 12/3/09, Mark Brueggemann <brueggemail-list at yahoo.com> wrote:

> From: Mark Brueggemann <brueggemail-list at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [Discussion] Thinking of going IMAC
> To: "POSSI Discussion List" <discussion at lists.possi.org>
> Date: Thursday, December 3, 2009, 10:19 AM
> 
> --- On Wed, 12/2/09, dushanm at spinn.net
> <dushanm at spinn.net>
> wrote:
> 
> > I did that about three years ago, and found it much
> more 
> > work than I had anticipated.
> 
> Wow Dushan, you don't paint a very rosy picture of the
> Mac.
> 
> I'm going through OS woes myself.  I can't seem to get
> there 
> from here.
> 
> I've got two doze desktops, my dual boot eCs/linux desktop,
> triple 
> boot Thinkpad (doze/eCs/linux), and a linux server box.
> 
> The intent is to have everything connect to the linux
> machine
> as a file and print server.  It's been a real eye
> opener.
> 
> The server is a Red Hat based system put out by an outfit
> called Clark Connect.  Gives you all the basic
> services you
> need in a no-frills simple install.  I'm running it on
> a "real" 
> HP server box.  Boxes are all connected up with a
> Linksys wifi 
> hub.  Wifi is for the laptop.
> 
> Hardware wise everything seems to work fine.  Can't
> seem
> to find a common ground with the protocols though.
> 
> The server box is currently configured as a Samba server
> for both public shares and print server.  That's when
> I discovered
> the Samba in eCs is old, and the new one I tried 
> (netlabs?)
> didn't work.  It can see the shares but won't open
> them. Need to 
> see if I can at least FTP with eCS and skip printing for
> now.
> 
> Windoze of course can see, read and write the shares just
> fine, and print perfectly.
> 
> Linux is a real pill.  I've tried half a dozen
> distributions and only
> one so far works with the server 100%.  My linux
> mentor says
> I need to read up on Samba.  The man page for that is
> only about
> 200 pages long.  I guess I'm not a true linux
> believer, since I 
> expect basic services to work out of the box. 
> 
> Seems like NFS might be an option for Linux and eCS but
> there's
> no client built into windoze for that, and would still
> leave me to 
> solve networking the printer. 
> 
> My goal of having one file/print bucket for all my machines
> is
> quickly turning to crap.  The more I dork with this
> stuff the
> better it looks to chuck the whole mess and put my data on
> thumb drives.
> 
> The Mac theme to this post is I'd be happy to go
> proprietary
> if it meant I could plug and play, but even with apple
> there's
> no guarantees other than how much it will cost you.  I
> need
> at least one doze and one linux machine no matter what, so
> with a mixed bag like this it appears there's no simple
> solution.
> You'd think as the technology moved forward it would
> become
> more seamless and integrated but I'm finding it's just the
> 
> opposite.
> 
> Makes me long for the days of Warp 4 and my simple peer
> network, which worked like a hose.
> 
> 
> Mark B.
> Albuquerque, NM
> 
> 
> 
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