[Discussion] screen frequency

Sat Apr 12 18:06:07 PDT 2008

Michael,

Reply to the copy of this that cmae to you OFF-list.

Would you like an 8 Meg ATI Rage(something-or-other) VDC?
(As I've said OFTEN on this list, I've got a friend who has got a
recyclery for electronics business. Cards this size / age quality just
get tossed (usually). If  you would like one, You'd pay shipping from
Chicago IL (presuming you're in the USA) to you. Overseas = mucho $.

What do you think of that?

Tom Clayton

--- Michael <bsd4me at cableone.net> wrote:

> Woke up early this morning with an idea and it worked. 
> I looked through all my junk and changed the video card :)
> 
> The card that I had problem with was Sis 6326. It worked fine with
> all other systems.
> The card I just put in is:
> Manufacturer:    ATI
> Chipset:         3D Rage II+
> Memory:          2048 Kb
> DAC:             ATI Mach64 Internal 24 bit DAC
> Clock:           ATI Mach64 Internal Clock
> Driver Revision: Build 10
> Driver Build:    Jul 28 2000
> 
> I go from 8 megs ram to 2 megs ram. Oh well, it works for now :)
> 
> Now to answer some of the questions:
> 
> ** Reply to note from Thomas Clayton <topcatdrc at yahoo.com> Sat, 12
> Apr 2008 00:24:42 -0700 (PDT)
> >   
> > Michael,
> >   
> > My thoughts are:
> >   
> > Monitors (analogue) "traditionally" start up at 720x400 @ 70(not
> 60) Hz
> > V. Refresh (This is a /text/ mode!)
> >   
> > When the system BOOTs do you see memory counts and other text OK?
> >   
> 
> Just splash screen for partial boot-up, then the "out of range"
> screen. When the WPS finally
> loads,I then have good looking screen.
> 
> >   
> > Standard VGA is 640x480 @ 60Hz V. refresh (Definitely 'Graphics
> mode' -
> > or, IF you're an old time IBMer (many on this list are), A.P.A. =
> All
> > Points Addressable).
> >   
> > When you installed Warp4 did you see graphics OK? (I'd guess
> "Yes".)
> 
> For the initial installation, yes, but as soon as the system rebooted
> for first time (during
> install), no. 
> 
> >   
> > There are two ways (things) that have to 'sync' with each other:
> the
> > Video Display Adapter and the monitor.
> >   
> > Let's atart with the monitor. IF it has (as I think is does have)
> an 
> > On-Screen Display (OSD) of settings, LOOK thru them to /make sure/
> that
> > there isn't a setting already set that causes the monitor to start
> up
> > in a particular (NON-standard) mode. (Some of these can start up in
> > 800x600 graphics but nothing "less" - and they are NOT fixed
> > frequency.)
> >   
> >   
> > BTW, What EXACTLY is the model number of your monitor (KDS ????)?
> > We can look it up with that info.
> 
> vs-7e "17 Multiscan Color Monitor"
>       
> > Uh, ANY 'bent' pins on the cable connectors? (A passing thought.)
> 
> All pins are/were good :)
>    
> >   
> > Now, as for the video display card (VDC):
> >  we've got possible HW settings - ('jumpers') - unlikely BUT
> possible; 
> >   
> >  video ROM programming by the manufacturer
> > (Does it work with other OSes OK?)
> 
> Yes, it worked great with other systems: M$, linux, *bsd
>    
> > and, of course, the card's drivers and THEIR default setting(s). 
> > THIS is THE most likely culprit! 
> >   
> > When you installed Warp4 did you CHOOSE a video driver (other than
> > "plain old VGA")? (It is USUALLY best to INITIALLY 'go with' VGA
> and,
> > only later, install a particular ("BETTER") video driver. Also,
> SciTech
> > and IBM GradD IIRC /require/ fixpaks to be applied to the base
> system 
> > /before/ they'll install.)
> 
> I *always* install with VGA ;) I generally (for my own system(s)), do
> a very basic install and
> then add sound, printer, video, network, etc.
> After the install, I used WarpUP to add fp15, device drivers, and
> video. 
> 
> > I just typed the IIRC abreviation and I've forgoten what
> it means! :-( > (I'm not sure I used it correctly!)
> >   
> >   
> > It's late. 'nough for now. Let us know how things go - or DON'T.
> >   
> 
> Thanks for your time and effort :)    I'll just mark the SiS as not
> for OS/2 :( 
> Again, thank-you all that took the time and effort to help. 
> Now that the system is up and running,  I can get on to other things.
> 
> Michael
> 
> > Sincerely,
> >   
> > Thomas Clayton
> >   
> >   
> > --- Michael <bsd4me at cableone.net> wrote:
> >   
> > > Hi all.
> > > Just joined having been away from OS/2 for some time due to hd
> crash
> > > and then cpu burn-up.
> > > Any way, I got Warp 4 installed on a computer, but during bootup
> or
> > > even trying to use a OS/2 Full Screen window, I get the "out of
> > > range" screen. My monitor is a 17" KDS with 30-70 horizontal
> freq,
> > > but OS/2 tries to use 27.8. 
> > > Even if using vga mode, I get the same thing. 
> > > The system did it while installing OS/2 and still does it with
> fp15. 
> > > The most serious problem with this is that during startup, the
> system
> > > doesn't like something and waits for me to interact (by hitting
> the
> > > enter key) with it. 
> > > Is there something I can do/edit to fix this problem? I searched
> > > google for the phrase "out of range", but didn't see anything for
> > > this.
> > > 
> > > Thanks
> > > 
> > > Michael
> > >
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