[Discussion] screen frequency

[Michael]

Woke up early this morning with an idea and it worked. 
I looked through all my junk and changed the video card :)

The card that I had problem with was Sis 6326. It worked fine with all other systems.
The card I just put in is:
Manufacturer:    ATI
Chipset:         3D Rage II+
Memory:          2048 Kb
DAC:             ATI Mach64 Internal 24 bit DAC
Clock:           ATI Mach64 Internal Clock
Driver Revision: Build 10
Driver Build:    Jul 28 2000

I go from 8 megs ram to 2 megs ram. Oh well, it works for now :)

Now to answer some of the questions:

** Reply to note from Thomas Clayton <topcatdrc at yahoo.com> Sat, 12 Apr 2008 00:24:42 -0700 (PDT)
>   
> Michael,
>   
> My thoughts are:
>   
> Monitors (analogue) "traditionally" start up at 720x400 @ 70(not 60) Hz
> V. Refresh (This is a /text/ mode!)
>   
> When the system BOOTs do you see memory counts and other text OK?
>   

Just splash screen for partial boot-up, then the "out of range" screen. When the WPS finally
loads,I then have good looking screen.

>   
> Standard VGA is 640x480 @ 60Hz V. refresh (Definitely 'Graphics mode' -
> or, IF you're an old time IBMer (many on this list are), A.P.A. = All
> Points Addressable).
>   
> When you installed Warp4 did you see graphics OK? (I'd guess "Yes".)

For the initial installation, yes, but as soon as the system rebooted for first time (during
install), no. 

>   
> There are two ways (things) that have to 'sync' with each other: the
> Video Display Adapter and the monitor.
>   
> Let's atart with the monitor. IF it has (as I think is does have) an 
> On-Screen Display (OSD) of settings, LOOK thru them to /make sure/ that
> there isn't a setting already set that causes the monitor to start up
> in a particular (NON-standard) mode. (Some of these can start up in
> 800x600 graphics but nothing "less" - and they are NOT fixed
> frequency.)
>   
>   
> BTW, What EXACTLY is the model number of your monitor (KDS ????)?
> We can look it up with that info.

vs-7e "17 Multiscan Color Monitor"
      
> Uh, ANY 'bent' pins on the cable connectors? (A passing thought.)

All pins are/were good :)
   
>   
> Now, as for the video display card (VDC):
>  we've got possible HW settings - ('jumpers') - unlikely BUT possible; 
>   
>  video ROM programming by the manufacturer
> (Does it work with other OSes OK?)

Yes, it worked great with other systems: M$, linux, *bsd
   
> and, of course, the card's drivers and THEIR default setting(s). 
> THIS is THE most likely culprit! 
>   
> When you installed Warp4 did you CHOOSE a video driver (other than
> "plain old VGA")? (It is USUALLY best to INITIALLY 'go with' VGA and,
> only later, install a particular ("BETTER") video driver. Also, SciTech
> and IBM GradD IIRC /require/ fixpaks to be applied to the base system 
> /before/ they'll install.)

I *always* install with VGA ;) I generally (for my own system(s)), do a very basic install and
then add sound, printer, video, network, etc.
After the install, I used WarpUP to add fp15, device drivers, and video. 

> I just typed the IIRC abreviation and I've forgoten what
it means! :-( > (I'm not sure I used it correctly!)
>   
>   
> It's late. 'nough for now. Let us know how things go - or DON'T.
>   

Thanks for your time and effort :)    I'll just mark the SiS as not for OS/2 :( 
Again, thank-you all that took the time and effort to help. 
Now that the system is up and running,  I can get on to other things.

Michael

> Sincerely,
>   
> Thomas Clayton
>   
>   
> --- Michael <bsd4me at cableone.net> wrote:
>   
> > Hi all.
> > Just joined having been away from OS/2 for some time due to hd crash
> > and then cpu burn-up.
> > Any way, I got Warp 4 installed on a computer, but during bootup or
> > even trying to use a OS/2 Full Screen window, I get the "out of
> > range" screen. My monitor is a 17" KDS with 30-70 horizontal freq,
> > but OS/2 tries to use 27.8. 
> > Even if using vga mode, I get the same thing. 
> > The system did it while installing OS/2 and still does it with fp15. 
> > The most serious problem with this is that during startup, the system
> > doesn't like something and waits for me to interact (by hitting the
> > enter key) with it. 
> > Is there something I can do/edit to fix this problem? I searched
> > google for the phrase "out of range", but didn't see anything for
> > this.
> > 
> > Thanks
> > 
> > Michael
> >
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