[Discussion] Gold CDs [was: Disk Backup to CD

[James Cannon]

Hi Carl,

You don't want to be in [Discussion] anymore? Best of
luck in your future.

Sincerely,
James Cannon

--- Carl Gehr <Carl.Gehr at MCGCG.Com> wrote:

> I MADE A REQUEST VERY EARLY IN THIS TREAD THAT MY
> NAME BE REMOVED FROM
> THE 'SUBJECT' SINCE:
> 1) I did not originate the thread.
> 2) I only made ONE comment that has not been
> particularly
>    well received.
> 3) I have no plans to further contribute to the
> thread.
> 
> PLEASE:
> 	Remove the above:
> 	Remove my name from the subject [as I have done]
> TIA,
> Carl
> 
> 
> On Thu, 10 May 2007 19:39:13 -0400, Joseph Hansen
> wrote:
> 
> >May 10, 2007
> >
> >I think I posted this information here about a year
> ago.
> >
> >Inkjet Art sells gold-plated mitsui CDs that are
> claimed to be highly  
> >resistant to deterioration from heat and UV
> radiation, with a  
> >projected lifetime of 200 years.  They're
> expensive: about $1.50 each  
> >in small quantities.
> >
> >For more information, see:
> http://www.inkjetart.com/mitsui/index.html
> >
> >I do not have personal experience with these CDs,
> but would like to  
> >hear from anyone who has.
> >
> >Joe
> >
> >
> >On May 10, 2007, at 5:48 PM, Carl Gehr wrote:
> >
> >> Specifically regarding STORING of whatever media
> you use:
> >> 	I have a Safe Deposit Box at a nearby bank!
> >> The fireproof safe/box that I keep in house is
> only temporary
> >> before the media is moved to the bank.
> >>
> >> Carl
> >>
> >> On Thu, 10 May 2007 13:00:12 -0700, Bill Nicholls
> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Keep in mind that CDs are *not* a robust
> mechanism for storage. Both
> >>> heat and light will accelerate the aging of the
> CD.
> >>>
> >>> As my friend Van found out, never leave you CD
> on a windowsill. He
> >>> picked it up after the afternoon sun had hit it
> for about two  
> >>> hours and
> >>> it was totally erased.
> >>>
> >>> Unless you have a fireproof safe that limits the
> inside temp to  
> >>> boiling
> >>> water, the heat from a fire will also destroy
> non-stamped CDs. All in
> >>> all, they really are only a temporary storage
> medium.
> >>>
> >>> Alternatives:
> >>> 1. DVDs - these are harder to erase, but not
> proof against a lot of
> >>> light or heat.
> >>> 2. Tape - the traditional backup still has a lot
> of value. Van  
> >>> tells me
> >>> that good tape drives, often with useable tapes,
> are available on  
> >>> ebay
> >>> for 5% of original cost, sometimes less. A good
> tape in a (non-cheap
> >>> 2000 degree F, 2 hours)) fireproof safe will
> survive even a very  
> >>> hot fire.
> >>> 3. Raid Drives - This is my current mecanism for
> backup, though I  
> >>> am in
> >>> the process of setting up a cheap DDS4 tape
> backup system, using  
> >>> Bacula
> >>> (recommended open source). A pair of RAID1 200GB
> drives is about  
> >>> $125,
> >>> and even a fire is unlikely to destroy the data
> unless the drives get
> >>> hot enough to warp.
> >>>
> >>> Recommendation:
> >>> This is what I am doing. I already have multiple
> RAID1 drives in
> >>> different systems. I backup core files to two
> sets of raid drives if
> >>> they are important. For my video files I have a
> 1T RAID5 that can be
> >>> expanded to 2.5T with three more 500GB drives. I
> can recommend  
> >>> Hitachi
> >>> for this, though Segate's best are also fine,
> about the same price.
> >>> Currently high quality 500GB drives go for about
> $130-140.
> >>>
> >>> In the next month I will be setting up the tapes
> and buying a $3-400
> >>> fireproof safe.
> >>>
> >>> I know it's not cheap, but have you considered
> how much it costs to
> >>> recover data from one drive? $300 down, no upper
> limit and no  
> >>> guarantee.
> >>> Ouch!  Remember, digital photos and other
> personal stuff cannot be
> >>> replaced and insurance is not much compensation.
> >>>
> >>> BillN
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> >Joseph J Hansen
> >Lexington Strategic Associates
> >221 Follen Road, Lexington, MA 02421-5802
> >
> >tel (781) 863-5003
> >jhansen at LexSA.com,  www.LexSA.com
> >
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