[Discussion] Gold CDs [was: Disk Backup to CD (Carl Gehr)]

[Thomas Clayton]

Dear Joseph,

Thanks for the (re-)reference. After ? ?'s comments about my use of ?
brand media (which I use frequently!), I like knowing about something
'better' that is avavilable.

Sincerely,

Thomas Clayton

Yeah. I've forgotten and didn't take the time to 'look up',
 neither, the person's name nor manufacturer's name.



--- Joseph Hansen <jhansen at LexSA.com> wrote:

> May 10, 2007
> 
> I think I posted this information here about a year ago.
> 
> Inkjet Art sells gold-plated mitsui CDs that are claimed to be highly
>  
> resistant to deterioration from heat and UV radiation, with a  
> projected lifetime of 200 years.  They're expensive: about $1.50 each
>  
> in small quantities.
> 
> For more information, see: http://www.inkjetart.com/mitsui/index.html
> 
> I do not have personal experience with these CDs, but would like to  
> hear from anyone who has.
> 
> Joe
> 
> 
> On May 10, 2007, at 5:48 PM, Carl Gehr wrote:
> 
> > Specifically regarding STORING of whatever media you use:
> > 	I have a Safe Deposit Box at a nearby bank!
> > The fireproof safe/box that I keep in house is only temporary
> > before the media is moved to the bank.
> >
> > Carl
> >
> > On Thu, 10 May 2007 13:00:12 -0700, Bill Nicholls wrote:
> >
> >> Keep in mind that CDs are *not* a robust mechanism for storage.
> Both
> >> heat and light will accelerate the aging of the CD.
> >>
> >> As my friend Van found out, never leave you CD on a windowsill. He
> >> picked it up after the afternoon sun had hit it for about two  
> >> hours and
> >> it was totally erased.
> >>
> >> Unless you have a fireproof safe that limits the inside temp to  
> >> boiling
> >> water, the heat from a fire will also destroy non-stamped CDs. All
> in
> >> all, they really are only a temporary storage medium.
> >>
> >> Alternatives:
> >> 1. DVDs - these are harder to erase, but not proof against a lot
> of
> >> light or heat.
> >> 2. Tape - the traditional backup still has a lot of value. Van  
> >> tells me
> >> that good tape drives, often with useable tapes, are available on 
> 
> >> ebay
> >> for 5% of original cost, sometimes less. A good tape in a
> (non-cheap
> >> 2000 degree F, 2 hours)) fireproof safe will survive even a very  
> >> hot fire.
> >> 3. Raid Drives - This is my current mecanism for backup, though I 
> 
> >> am in
> >> the process of setting up a cheap DDS4 tape backup system, using  
> >> Bacula
> >> (recommended open source). A pair of RAID1 200GB drives is about  
> >> $125,
> >> and even a fire is unlikely to destroy the data unless the drives
> get
> >> hot enough to warp.
> >>
> >> Recommendation:
> >> This is what I am doing. I already have multiple RAID1 drives in
> >> different systems. I backup core files to two sets of raid drives
> if
> >> they are important. For my video files I have a 1T RAID5 that can
> be
> >> expanded to 2.5T with three more 500GB drives. I can recommend  
> >> Hitachi
> >> for this, though Segate's best are also fine, about the same
> price.
> >> Currently high quality 500GB drives go for about $130-140.
> >>
> >> In the next month I will be setting up the tapes and buying a
> $3-400
> >> fireproof safe.
> >>
> >> I know it's not cheap, but have you considered how much it costs
> to
> >> recover data from one drive? $300 down, no upper limit and no  
> >> guarantee.
> >> Ouch!  Remember, digital photos and other personal stuff cannot be
> >> replaced and insurance is not much compensation.
> >>
> >> BillN
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> Joseph J Hansen
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> 
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